tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post6434321376279478428..comments2023-12-23T05:16:48.469-05:00Comments on Riggs' Nut Straight: Borgata Summer Open TragedyRiggstadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09724818580402350984noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-68407749550746811722009-07-16T23:07:24.171-04:002009-07-16T23:07:24.171-04:00You're appalled. I learned long ago to appreci...You're appalled. I learned long ago to appreciate a good dealer. They can speed the game along and make it a much better experience. I don't play in the high level tourneys but I usually tip 10% of the first $500 and 5% after that. The prize pools in the $50-200 tourneys aren't always that great and the dealer usually puts in a couple of hours tho many casinos in AC seem to rotate the dealers between tourney and ring games in their daily tourneys<br /><br />i twice saw what you were talking about. In a tourney I chopped, both of us taking over a grand the other guy dumped about $13 in the pot. In another I walked over to watch the h2h at the end and saw the tip box. Now admittedly the money is concentrated in the top spots but 12 got paid and the other 10 had put in about $25. In the daily tourneys there are usually anywhere from 6-10 dealers going for a couple hours at least. $25 don't stretch too far.Wolfsheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02557657560134585950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-46501622194556557752009-07-05T20:27:00.570-04:002009-07-05T20:27:00.570-04:00To support Riggs..I was there to witness the $3,50...To support Riggs..I was there to witness the $3,500 total and I too was appalled. <br /><br />When I talked to a couple of dealers the next day, I told them the number they were stunned and disgusted.<br /><br />I added a caveat by saying $3500 was the total as of one hour after the event ended, and that there was a chance the top two prize winners would come correct and add to the tip pool at a later time (as one player did earlier in the BSO). <br /><br />I don't believe that happened, but miracles and mistakes do happen, so I was holding out hope.<br /><br />To make matter worse, the top two players from the Main Event were proud of the fact they satellited their way into the tournament. They each paid $360 and the winner took home more than $356,000,000 (less because of the chop, Riggs will have to fill in the specifics).<br /><br />Even if the winner nets half of that, accounts for taxes and has $100,000 free and clear, the tip (based on 2%) should be $2,000. <br /><br />This guy tipped (as far as we know) zero, nada, zip, zilch, $0...which is a true crime.<br /><br />His tip should've been more than half of the meager amount actually collected.<br /><br />When the winner was at the cage, I asked him to return to the media area so we could do a quick video interview that we'd post it to the web. (Something we did with almost every Event winner at the BSO).<br /><br />The reason we wait to do a more in depth interview with all players that cash, is so that we don't interfere with the tipping process. We don't want to be a distraction as players are filling out the paper work, collecting their money from the cage, or depositing in the toke box.<br /><br />This guy (borgatapoker.blogspot.com) said he would return to do the interview, but never showed.<br /><br />One possible reason? Let's just say the toke box was on the final table a few feet away from media row.Gorillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17069470248445462590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-8320802879340361182009-07-03T12:35:26.788-04:002009-07-03T12:35:26.788-04:00It's just an interesting conversation, in gene...It's just an interesting conversation, in general . . . even in cash games, I have been at tables where I feel more or less obligated to tip. <br /><br />I realize, in the service business, there is an expectation of a tip. But since this is a variable amount, I expect to see variations in service, and I tend to pay according to those variations. Even dealers. Ones who speed things along. Help the stragglers. Calm the a-holes. Smile. For god's sake, just smile.<br /><br />Maybe we need to do it like Europe. Everyone paid a fair wage, tip included. Few extra coins for a job well done, instead of a calculated percentage.The NL Wifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02821568106301602442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-16432201561506790152009-07-02T12:01:48.930-04:002009-07-02T12:01:48.930-04:00Anonymous,
Dealers get paid by the casino a much ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Dealers get paid by the casino a much lower wage because it is assumed that they will make more in tips. Cash game dealers make a whole bunch. Probably on average of a $1.50 a pot. And they deal an average of 40 hands an hour. That's not a bad wage, and that's why they deal.<br /><br />Tournament dealers however do get a higher hourly because the tip ratio is smaller. But they still expect to get 1.5%. When that doesn't happen, they lose.<br /><br />I did not make that number up. I sat there and watched the dealer toke be counted. They did it at the media table. It was $3500.<br /><br />I have nothing to gain by making up a number. I'm not a dealer.<br /><br />I'm only reporting what I saw. And you are right in the sense that a tip is not mandatory. But in September... it will be.Riggstadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09724818580402350984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-2732432749386187272009-07-02T11:34:50.491-04:002009-07-02T11:34:50.491-04:00Dealers are getting paid by the casino. A tip is ...Dealers are getting paid by the casino. A tip is just that, a extra offering of monies for a job well done. It should not be mandatory. <br />I would think that players tipped more than the number you are "reporting" for others to feel sorry for them and to get MORE ...<br /><br />At what time did it become mandatory to get "tips" -- let's tip based on our preference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-70797534234348003472009-07-02T10:55:23.963-04:002009-07-02T10:55:23.963-04:00Bah! Humbug!
Well, not really but it did make me...Bah! Humbug!<br /><br />Well, not really but it did make me post a counterpoint in my blog for the day.KenPhttp://www.pokerperambulation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-33252906505807133932009-07-01T20:39:21.050-04:002009-07-01T20:39:21.050-04:00This helps remind me in case i ever cash in a live...This helps remind me in case i ever cash in a live tourney. LOL. Thanks man. I appreciate you posting this.TripJaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02883671728514946477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-68081399981655201052009-07-01T15:38:02.200-04:002009-07-01T15:38:02.200-04:00Great post. I hate scrooges.
-PLGreat post. I hate scrooges.<br /><br />-PLShrikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05404058806313927899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6392901304932532948.post-24629940281432309442009-07-01T14:18:06.398-04:002009-07-01T14:18:06.398-04:00Amen.
-DrCAmen.<br /><br />-DrCDrChakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13408654385168201338noreply@blogger.com